Hi Will,

pretty sure the gift from Larry is ChamObt 'Flabelliformis.' I received a very similar gift at a conifer conference a few years ago.

Cham. pis. 'Baby Blue Ice'

Cham Obt. 'Chirimen' (also a gift from Larry Stanley)

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Cham. obt. 'Nana'

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A few years ago some critter dug out and must have overwintered under that 'Nana'. I was about to replace the soil when I figured they might do it again so I stuck a rock in there. Niwaki at it's most base. ;-)

tj

Love the rock under the root of your 'Nana', tj!

a few of mine:
Chamaecyparis thyoides 'Ericoides'

Chamaecyparis obtusa 'Saffron Spray'

Chamaecyparis obtusa 'Baldwin Variegated'
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Chamaecyparis obtusa 'Moonlight Lace' (Can you tell I really like variegated plants?????) :0)
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-Sam

Sam, I would be interested where you got your 'Moonlight Lace' ... looks good! and new to me!

Chamaecyparis pisifera 'Plumosa Aurea'

Chamaecyparis pisifera 'Plumosa Aurea'

Chamaecyparis pisifera 'Squarrosa'

Chamaecyparis pisifera 'Squarrosa'

Chamaecyparis pisifera 'Plumosa' I believe? This is a clone I grew.

Not 100% sure on what this is.. I cloned this from a tree i liked.

J

I got my 'Moonlight Lace' from Don Howse at Porterhowse Farms, bluespruce.
This cultivar was discovered at Iseli Nursery.
The variegation has suffered some burning now, so I recommend shade, which is where I hope to move mine in the fall.

-Sam

Chamaecyparis obtusa, 'Nana Aurea'.
I planted this just over thirty years ago.
It shows a little damage on the bottom due to dog pee. For the most part, my garden is dog friendly. My friends bring their dogs to my garden for exercise. I haven't had a dog for over ten years. No need to.
Mike

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In the background is a Chamycyparis obtusa, 'Gracilus Aurea', aka Gold Hinoki. (I hope I got that name right)

Wowwww Mike, that's an incredable old and very nice specimen of a 'Nana Aurea'!
May I use this pic for the Dutch Conifer Society Database?
Many thanks in advance!

You're almost right with the 'Gracilus Aurea', it's correct full name is Chamaecyparis obtusa 'Gracilis Aurea' ;0)

Thanks Edwin. That makes sense.

Sure, go ahead and use it.

Mike

Chamaecyparis obtusa 'Kosteri'. SUPER slow growing. I've had this plant for three years and I swear it is the same size it was when I bought it. 'Baldwin Variegated' to the right.

'Little Markey'

Chamaecyparis lawsoniana 'Blue Surprise'. Lacking daylight on half of the plant, as you can probably tell!

Chamaecyparis pisifera 'Silver Lode'

Chamaecyparis pisifera 'Curly Tops'.

Chamaecyparis obtusa 'Saffron Spray'.

More tomorrow and as always, I appreciate any corrections folks(Edwin!).
:)

-Will

Is C. pisifera "Plumosa compressa" the same or different from "Plumosa compressa aurea"? (The picture above of the former does look somewhat gold, and I know that sometimes the names become truncated).

What is the relationship between this (or these) and "Plumosa aurea"?

Thanks,
Alex

Alex, "Aurea" means gold. This is the difference between 'Plumosa Compressa' and 'Plumosa Compressa Aurea'.

My guess would be that 'Plumosa Compressa Aurea' is more compact than 'Plumosa Aurea', but maybe one of the more experienced members can verify..

-Sam

My comments to this great topic:
Will, can you show us the pic of that other one which I identify also as 'White Pygmy'.
I like to compare these and then I'll tell you what I think...

Chamaecyparis obt. 'Gimborn Beauty' and Split Rock':
Your pics are showing us simular plants and I think that both are the 'Gimborn Beauty'
The Juvenile foliage of this one is blue while it's adult foliage is green.
From the 'Split Rock' both the foliages are blue and it's side branches at the top are pointing down...
Please see the link for the true 'Split Rock' because these are mixed up in the trade...

Chamaecyparis obtusa 'Blue Feathers':
I think it's just a synonym for 'Arneson's Compact'...

Chamaecyparis pisif. 'Silver Lode' must bin written as 'Silverlode'.

Your 'Curly Tops' isn't the true one, it's tops aren't curled...it's the 'True Blue' which you're showing us.

Hostagreencare, your Chamaecyparis pisif. 'Squarrosa Minima' is in reality Chamaecyparis pisifera 'Nana'...

Tommy, I realy like that 'Baby Blue Ice' which was found as a branch mutation on a 'Baby Blue'.
Unfortunately it's not availlable in Europe. (yet)

Sam, your Chamecyparis thyoides 'Ericoides' is in reality a Chamaecyparis thyoi. 'Red Star' aka 'Rubicon'...

Taxo Man, your unknown own propagatred one looks to me as Chamaecyparis pisifera 'Plumosa Vera'
Please shown another pic when it's a bit older when it's a bit bigger...

Alex, the relationship between the 'Plumosa Aurea' and the 'Plumosa Compressa' is that both are cultivars of the 'Plumosa group'.
'Plumosa Compressa Aurea' doesn't exist,it's just 'Plumosa Compressa'.
The golden foliage is just the new growth which will turn to green at a later time...

Here is a link that might be useful: true 'Split Rock'

This Chamaecyparis was made from a cutting I started years ago. I spotted the original tree in a garden in Seattle, and after asking permission, I obtained enough material for three starts. The owner did not know the name, nor do I.
The tree is a light blue with gold tips.
Mike
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Here's a nice specimen of Chamaecyparis obtusa, 'Mariesii' that has been growing in my garden for a few years.
Mike
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obtusa Cannon Ball

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obtusa Gitte

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lawsoniana Bregeon

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nootkanensis Pendula

Mike, can you show a close up pic of that Chamaecyparis that you propagated by yourself, maybe then I can help you with it's id.

That 'Mariesii' must bin have cut several times because of it's upright form.
This is the first time I see one with does have one leader, normaly spoken it's growing habit is like a bush form.
Your's does have the shape of a pagoda :0)

Rispetto, your 'Cannon Ball' isn't a Chamaecyparis obtusa but a Chamaecyparis pisifera cultivar.
It's full name is Chamaecyparis pisifera 'Spaan's Cannon Ball'.

That Chamaecyparis obt. 'Gitte' is a pretty new one to the trade.
It's found by my Dutch friend Peter Schrauwen as a branch mutation of a 'Tsatsumi Gold'

Your Xanthocyparis (Cupressus) nootkatensis 'Pendula' isn't the true form.
Please see the link for the true 'Pendula'
Your's does have the shape of another cultivar, the 'Jubilee'...

Here is a link that might be useful:

Here's a close up picture, Edwin.
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Good eye on that 'Mariesii! Yes, I did prune out the larger side branches when it was younger.
Mike

Hi Mike
Unfortunately your close up pic isn't clear for me to say which conifer it is.
It looks that it's seed cones are round so it's a Chamaecyparis obtusa cultivar.

Please can you cut off a small branch (about 20cm)and take a pic from above in a shadowed place so I can see it's good colour and texture.
If possible make also a deatail pic of the seed cones.
Thanks!

Chamaecyparis lawsoniana 'Rimpelaar'

-Sam

Sam, that's a very nice 'Rimpelaar' pic!
It's found as a mutation on a Chamaecyparis lawsoniana 'Ellwoodii' at the Snepvangers Nursery in the Netherlands and is named after the street were this nursery is located...

Is it grafted or from a cutting?

May I also use this pic for the Dutch Conifer Society database?
Thanks in advance!

Hello, Edwin.

I purchased this plant from Talon Buchholz's Nursery where it was grafted onto their special disease-resistant rootstock. Thank you for the history behind it.

You most certainly can use it for the database!

Cheers
-Sam

Great post. One of my favorite conifers. Especially obtusas.
C.o. Kosteri

C.o. Vokel's Upright

C.o. Reis Dwarf

C.o. nana 20 yrs old

C.o. Douglasii

C.o. Lycopoides

C.o. Rigid Dwarf

C.o. Bess

More tomorrow, John

Great stuff, John. It's also one of my favorites. Good to see bigger 'Reis Dwarf' and 'Bess' to give me something to look forward to with mine. Any larger 'Meroke' or 'Joel Springarn'?

tj

Beautiful pics John!
We seldom see them of old specimens.
Friendly I would also ask your permission to use these for the Dutch Conifer Society database.
Many thanks in advance!

Tsuga,Sorry no Meroke or Joel Springarn.Sold a beautiful 5' Meroke Twin to a customer a few yrs ago. I'll visit someday and get a photo. Thank you Edwin, Yes please use them. I visit that site often.
John

A few more obtusas-

Chamaecyparis obtusa Golden Nymph (in Oregon Nursery)

C.o. Prostrata

C.o. Prostrata - cones

C.o. Wells Special

C.o. Sunny Swirl

John

John, thank you also for the other pics.

As a nurseryman you know that 'Prostrata' means "Flat Growing" while the one at your pics doesn't show that habit.
Are you sure that you're showing us the right one?

Some find by me and yet still unnamed:
Broom found on a Chamaecyparis pisifera 'Squarrosa'
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Mutation found on a Chamaecyparis pisifera 'Squarrosa Albospica'
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Edwin, Nice finds. I particularly like the first selection. As to c.o Prostrata it has always confused me but I think ,oddly enough that the name is correct. I also have a Cedrus libani Aurea Prostrata that shoots up like a rocket. and of course there's Abies koreana Prostrata which is at best described as upright and mounding! None of this makes sense of course, but until I find otherwise I keep things named as I recieve them.
This year I have found an unusual amount of sports on Chamaecyparis obtusa clones. Some are very interesting. As i have time I will photograph them and post them on this forum.
John

More often seen dead than alive
C. Lawsoniana 'Tiny Treasure'. Been in that bed for 6 years now.

It's just Chamaecyparis lawsoniana 'Treasure' instead of 'Tiny Treasure' which originated as a variegated mutation found on a 'Ellwoodii'...

Thanks - and did I ever have that name wrong - meant to say 'Treasure Island' - Tiny Treasure is the nursery source. Seems to me I recall someone commenting about Treasure Island/Treasure before but it didn't stick with me.
Marshall

'Treasure Island' was found as a witches' broom on a 'Treasure' found by the Treasures Nursery from Salem, Oregon.

'Treasure' was found by Floravista Gardens from Vancouver, Canada.

I meant to say Tiny Treasures Nursery instead of Treasures Nursery...

Chamaecyparis lawsoniana 'Filip's Golden Tears'

Nate, that's a nice specimen!
As you can see it made a double leader, one of these could be used again for propagation :0)

Chamaecyparis lawsoniana 'Intertexa' a very rare form