No form, just bark from an arboretum tree that no longer exists

They can vary so wildly or at least photos are available with green and even red splotches. That's the tree I'm searching for, ideally.

I think they're all going to be good, however.

Thank ya, Marshall.

Dax

this one is from Kew Gardens, London

and here is one in Morris Arboretum, Delaware

That's the one Raul I'm looking for scionwood for: Kew Gardens.

Raul, send a message from my page to me will you? I'd of sent one to you but you haven't enabled that as an option from your profile.

Dax

never was interested in the group.. no pix from me ...

ken

It's about the best pine there is, lol, kennith!

Bark has started flaking but isn't impressive yet.

Heya smivies, is that your stenocoma? It's a dandy.

Dax

Not with needles that length...it's my Lacebark Pine.

Stenocoma got badly burned in February, especially from the snow line to 7'. Above that, it was reasonably ok. The extension buds are now growing strongly but many of the brachyblasts have been very slow to recover.

Right. I was looking at your photo album and saw a stenocoma about 4' tall up against a wooden fence.

I've always wanted to plant a stenocoma. I got some scionwood I passed along to Gary Gee @ Gee Farms in Michigan of some high altitude specimens in Turkey. These trees from which the scionwood was collected are about as high as any person can reach on foot (and have experienced -28 F or colder if I am recalling, correctly.) I've yet to find out if they grafted successfully to deodara. After Gary grafted them he said he had stenocoma seedlings and it didn't cross his mind to use those... oops! :-)

Dax

That Stenocoma is a seedling...super easy to grow from seed. I have ~30 2.5 year old seedlings that showed varying levels of damage at or above the snow line (none to bud death) this past winter. That may be genetic hardiness variability or subtle differences in cultural and environmental conditions...couldn't say after one (harsh) winter outside.

Yep.

Dax

Smivies-

Would you care to post a pic of the stenocomas? I've got a few growing from seed probably 6mos old. Pretty small still. Didn't see the link to album Dax was referring to.

From June last year...haven't uploaded 2015 photos yet

Cedrus libani 'stenocoma'

Swankadilly. I need one. How about your seedlings when you have an extra moment?

Dax

Impressive! I found your website and was hoping for mail order of propagated specimens of that tree. I see you're not mail order though. Would you like to trade scions or grafts or plants in any order. I'd be more than willing to send grafts for scionwood next February.

Dax

Chicago Botanic Gardens

Thank ya, thank ya, whaas.

Yes Dax,we'll make something happen. I have more specimens, smaller but nice. Also have a nice specimen of P. b. Compacta.

Temple Gem

Message sent, Katsura.

Coincidentally Pinus Bungeana 'June's Broom' has just become available at Kenwith Nursery (Gordon Haddow). A nice plant but do the tight brooms show the bark? Probably not for many years.

You wouldn't be growing it for the bark until decades down the line if you limbed it up, yes.

Dax

I marked Lacebark Pine off the list decades ago. Sort of the Bradford Pear of the conifer world.snow damage to Lacebark Pine

I can't live without it as you can see. On another note relating to trees with tremendous bark, I grew and potted up 30-ish Pseudocydonia sinensis. Also was gifted a Stewartia pseudocamellia grown at Heritage Seedlings from a seed source that apparently walked away unscathed from -30F.

Dax

Dax...how do you find the hardiness of Pseudocydonia? The threshold for the ones I tried was almost exactly -15F. Unfortunately, we drop below -15F in 50% of our winters though thankfully, in my 18 years here, we've never gone below -20F.

I'm going to give it a shot, that's all. I will end up planting ~15 in a temporary bed once I get a full band pot set of roots to see if any are hardier than others. The others I'll give away and sell on ebay.

Dax

Pinus bungeana Compacta

That's a darn nice tree. I'll have to assume you read my message sent a week ago.

Thanks a lot for posting.

Dax